A longtime reader sends me word of a new company out in La Jolla, Nativis Pharmaceuticals, whose technology is most certainly eyebrow-raising. I think that the only way that I can do it justice is to quote directly from their web site; I wouldn’t want to get anything wrong:
Nativis has developed and patented a breakthrough technology that captures the unique photon field (signal) of active pharmaceutical ingredients (API), or drugs. . .Every drug molecule in a solution is surrounded by a photon field that contains information unique to the molecule. With Nativis’ technology, the photon field, or “drug signal” can be recorded and then replicated for medical treatment. Nativis has proven in preliminary trials that the drug signal – or photonic signature – mimics the original chemical molecule and can unlock the same biological processes as the original to treat diseases, such as brain tumors. With the technology, the drug signal can be reproduced rapidly and flawlessly, each time containing all relevant biochemical information encoded into the new therapeutic signal to drive a biologic reaction. . .
There now, tell me that your eyebrows didn’t get some exercise when you read that. I’m baffled. According to this story from the North County Times, Nativis has investors and advisors who are neither scam artists nor saffron-robed gurus, and unfortunately, the only other appropriate category I can think of is “victim”. Am I wrong?
I say that because there have been ripoffs beyond number that claim to use some sort of strangely energized or structured water, which is what seems to be going on here (see below). Honestly, you could easily fill a 500-page book with them, in fine print, and there are more every day. And if the Nativis folks don’t want to be taken for another member of that crowd, then they should do more to differentiate themselves from the scam artists (and no, linking to videos of Feynman explaining the basics of quantum electrodynamics is not enough). Here’s why I say that – this is the company’s explanation of their process:
MIDS (Molecular Interrogation and Data Systems) captures the photon field surrounding the solvation shell of a molecule in solution.
Captured photons are then imprinted into Coherence Domains in dipole (water-based) solution for delivery to patients; following administration, the photon payload chemically activates a non-water molecule for therapeutic effect.
The questions come tumbling out: what, exactly, is a “photon field”? And how do you capture one? Isn’t a solvation shell a rather dynamic thing, which depends on (among other things) concentration, ionic strength, and pH? How do you imprint captured photons into something? And “Coherence Domains?” That sounds like optical coherence tomography or the like, but only vaguely. How do you imprint into one? And this creates a “photon payload”? How does that, whatever it is, not dissipate?
And that “chemically activates a non-water molecule”, does it? By that, I presume that they mean a drug target. But my understanding of how a drug works on its target is that the drug has to be physically present, because it’s interacting, on an atom-by-atom basis, with said target. Drugs engage in a complex dance of attraction and repulsion with their binding sites (with attraction winning out!), and this process is affected by electron density (charge), hydrogen bonding, van der Waals forces, and more besides. The drug molecule physically occupies that binding site, which forces the rest of its target into a different shape. And in many cases, it physically displaces water molecules while doing so, and while it’s there, it keeps other molecules from coming in.
I don’t see how a “photon payload” can do these things. If it’s some real assembly of water molecules, I don’t see how it holds together at room temperature. Besides, the water solvation shell of a drug molecule isn’t what comes in and binds to a target; it’s the molecule itself. Shedding those waters is a key energetic part of the whole process. And if it’s not a real, physical assembly of water molecules, then what the heck is it? And here’s another objection: either way, it sound as if they’re taking this “drug signal” while the original drug is out there in solution. But the shape that most drugs have in solution isn’t the one that most drug have when they bind to their targets; adopting that new shape is another key process.
No, I have a weakness for wild ideas, but not this wild. Nativis has a lot to prove: can they take the “drug signal” from a fluoroquinolone antibiotic and kill bacteria with it? Can they use the signal from a receptor agonist and see calcium or cAMP changes in a cell assay? Will the “drug signal” displace a reference compound in a radioligand binding assay? Can you do Michaelis-Menten kinetics with one of an enzyme inhibitor? Will it affect a protein’s NMR spectrum? Can you determine its on- and off-rates in an SPR assay? Can you see a thermodynamic signature in a calorimeter?
And most importantly, will it help anyone who’s sick? Well. . .Nativis says that they’ve shown efficacy in a mouse model of glioblastoma with the “drug signal” of taxol. They say that they hope to file an IND later this year, and to publish more details in the literature within the next few months. I cannot wait. If they really have data sufficient for an IND, then I will enjoy, most thoroughly, being proved wrong. And if this stuff works, we can all take the opportunity to learn some physics while glory, prizes, and huge amounts of money rain down on the Nativis folks, to a backdrop of cheering cancer patients.
I am, as this post shows, intensely skeptical. But these are issues that can be answered, completely answered, by experiment. Bring on the data, guys. I’m sticking with the blog category shown until then.
Update: John Butters, CEO of Nativis, has sent along some more information about his company’s technology. Much of it seems to be based on work by del Giudice and Preparata on the properties of water. Those names rang a faint bell for me – turns out that their work pops up in all sorts of discussions of odd water effects: cold fusion, homeopathy, theories on the origins of life and of consciousness, and so very much on. I must confess that much of the physics is beyond my competence.
However, this all reminds me very much of homeopathy, and of the Benveniste affair and its aftermath, with many phrases (“digital biology”) in common. I have to conclude, for now, that this is what’s going on. In which case, I wish everyone involved – particularly the investors – the best of luck, because I have grave doubts that anything useful will come out of it. I will be delighted and amazed if I am proven wrong.